The Shift is a conversational podcast for HR and People leaders who are carrying real responsibility and trying to lead with clarity in the middle of change. Youāll leave with practical language, grounded frameworks, and a little more courage to take the next right step. If youāre tired of performative HR conversations and want honest dialogue that actually helps you lead, youāre in the right place.
Job boards promised speed. What they delivered was volume: resumes optimized for keyword bots on one side, and 5,000 applicants for a single role on the other. Filtering got faster. Matching didn’t get better.
In this episode of The Shift, we sit down with Robert Foldes, founder of CareerNav, a “career dating” platform built to match job seekers and organizations on more than keywords, to talk about what’s actually broken in how we find work, and how we find people.
We get into:
- Why keyword-matching optimizes for the wrong thing, for job seekers and employers alike
- The aha moment from Robert’s own job search ā and why he started treating it like dating
- Culture fit vs. “culture connectedness”: the shift from hiring “more of the same” to hiring for shared values
- Why small and mid-sized businesses lose the talent war to brand-name employers ā even though they’re the vast majority of the market
- The trouble with paying for referrals, and what breaks when the incentive replaces the trust
- Why nothing replaces meeting the person ā and how better data gets you there faster
Because a resume can tell you what someone’s done. It can’t tell you who they are.
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Marnie Robbins & Mindy Honcoop
Hosted by Mindy Honcoop and Marnie Robbins, each episode feels like pulling up a chair in the working room, not sitting through another āthought leadershipā lecture. They talk with practitioners, founders, and trusted voices about whatās shifting in the workplace right now: trust, leadership expectations, culture tension, AI and HR tech, change fatigue, messy people problems, and the decisions that sit on your desk when youāre the one everyone looks to.
Youāll leave with practical language, grounded frameworks, and a little more courage to take the next right step.
If youāre tired of performative HR conversations and want honest dialogue that actually helps you lead, youāre in the right place.